Tearing Down An Old Ceiling (So We Can Vault It)

Oh what a feeling… dancing on the ceiling. Which is much easier when your ceiling is on the floor.

But let’s rewind to a time when our sunroom ceiling was more ceiling-like. We’ve mentioned we wanted to try vaulting the ceiling in here to make it feel even more open (here’s a link to some of our inspiration). We’ve never vaulted a ceiling before but we figured this was a pretty low-risk spot to finally give it a go.

We realized from the start that we might need to hire a pro for part of the job since structural ramifications like “the roof could cave in” is one of those failing answers to our “what’s the worst that could happen if we DIY it?” test. But we figured we could at least do the demo part ourselves (just of the ceiling, not of any support beams). Why pay someone else to tear stuff up when I could have all the fun myself, amiright? So I started by turning off the power to the entire house (always a good first step when you’re ripping things apart) and then I got busy prying off the crown.

That step revealed what we were both expecting (I guess?): insulation and some sort of wood framing.

The ceiling itself was some kind of moisture resistant drywall, which surprised me because for some reason I assumed it was plywood like the walls. So my plan to meticulously cut and pry it out turned into “let me just pull on this a little bit to see what happens…”

One down, about 5 more to go!

That should have been the moment where we moved the daybed and the table out of the way, but we just got so excited to bust things out and the drywall was surprisingly light (especially compared to the idea of it being plywood). Both the daybed and the table are on our “need a new paint-job” list as well, so I think that made us less protective of them, but thankfully no furniture was hurt in the making of this post (you can see it all alive and well in the last shot).

Taking it down was pretty easy, very satisfying, and apparently highly entertaining. Get this girl some popcorn!

It only took me about 15 minutes to get the whole ceiling drywall-free. That was the easy part. I was even able to get it out around the fan which I probably should’ve just taken down – but the drywall was so pliable that I could easily pull it down around the fan without damaging the blades. In the end it was nice to keep it up there in case this phase of ceiling reconstruction takes weeks (so we can still stay cool while we work).

With the drywall down, I turned my attention (and my mad pulling-things-down skillz) to the insulation.

It too came down pretty easily, although it took a few hours (spread across a few days) and I filled about eight big garbage bags with the stuff.

Here’s a shot where you can better see what it looks like up there. We love all of the rafters way up there for eventually nailing beadboard to. It’s just all of those lower joists that are in the way.

I’m not an engineer so it took me 0.0002 seconds to admit that I had no idea what to do. A reader named Kate commented with how they dealt with a similar situation in their home, but I wasn’t feeling gutsy enough to assume the same method would work for us. So my next step was tidying up the still messy looking joists by prying off all of the leftover drywall nails and lingering insulation.

If we were going to have to wait for a pro to lend us a hand, at least the exposed wood could look a bit less scraggly, right? And that way when we finally get to tear it down (fingers crossed) we won’t have to worry about all of those half-sunk nails piercing us on the way down.

So this is where we are now. Just waiting on a pro for more info about how to proceed (he’s coming this morning actually). I feel like if this were an HGTV show this would be the part where the homeowner “happens to stop by” mid-renovation, freaks out about how torn up their house is, and confesses to the camera that they doubt the designer will ever get things together but will just have to trust him. So yeah, the homeowner in us is a bit uneasy by not having an exact plan yet, so we’re waiting with bated breath for the doorbell to ring.

At least while we wait we got to cross a few more things off the to-do list in here. Does this mean we’re halfway there? Maybe after we finish lofting…

  • Rip up the old carpeting (check that step out here)
  • Remove the sliding doors and tracks to open things up (we did that here)
  • Convert outlets to outdoor-safe rain-proof ones with covers (we also did that here)
  • Add fresh casing to the openings and caulk like crazy to waterproof everything (here’s the post about that)
  • Demo the old ceiling in hopes of possibly lofting the ceiling (get a pro in here for advice)
  • Remove old beams, reinforce ceiling stability, and install painted beadboard
  • Add a hanging ceiling fan (or two?) and possibly recessed lighting or hanging lanterns from posts
  • Repaint the columns and interior of the sunroom with exterior paint
  • Tile the floors with something outdoor-safe that’s less slick than the glue-stained concrete (we’ve already been poking around a few tile places…)
  • Get a rug, furniture, and maybe even add some outdoor curtains?
  • Build an outdoor fireplace like this down the line

Until we have some “this is happening next” info, we’re turning our attention back to some indoor projects. Thankfully I don’t think any of those will involve ripping down any more ceilings, as much fun as this one was…

Comments

  1. says

    This is exciting!

    We actually are just starting to talk to people about figuring out how to add our back porch to our kitchen and then loft the ceiling between the two! It’s so nerve-wracking and hard for me to imagine actually happening. That’s why I love coming and seeing you guys take on these projects in real time.

    Looking forward to the updates!! And I’ll keep you updated on us, ha. :)

  2. Mary says

    You guys are amazing. I feel like I’m a pretty hard-working, willing-to-tackle anything kind of person….but you two put me to shame every time. I’m beyond excited to see how this space turns out. I’m already in love with the half-finished project.

  3. Abbey says

    I never know what kind of “pro” to call– did you guys go with a structural engineer or a contractor?

    • says

      In this case we emailed the builder we’re working with on the showhouse (ahh, we owe you guys an update on that! we’re finalizing floor plans any day now!) and asked if he had someone (a contractor or framing guy) to recommend or if he knew about loads/framing/the process himself since he’s been building houses for 10+ years. He said he’d swing by today at 11 to look at things (we’re not sure if he’s bringing a framing person or a general contractor or an engineer as well) so we’ll fill you in on the entire process once it goes down! In your case I’d recommend calling or emailing a general contractor or framing specialist to just ask them if something’s in their scope of work (they’re usually great about telling you who else you’ll need, if you need a permit, etc).

      xo
      s

    • says

      There are sites like Angie’s List for looking up people to see if they are highly rated (does yelp do it too, I keep meaning to look?). We always love going on people’s advice/experiences, so we’ll ask friends or neighbors or relatives for recommendations sometimes, and that seems to work out well!

      xo
      s

  4. Caz says

    There’s something kinda liberating about this post!
    …in Aust, you really can’t just rip walls / ceiling down in a DIY fashion due to the potential of Asbetos. I’m curious as to why this seems more of an Australian issue – was it not used as widely elsewhere? None of the DIY US blogs I read ever mention it.

    • says

      Oh yes, asbestos is a serious thing here! Thankfully house inspectors look at insulation and flooring and other things during inspection, and nothing at this house was flagged (our house was built after it was a known carcinogen, so it was mostly phased out). But if we ever saw things like black paper liner under our linoleum or kitty-litter-like insulation, we’d call in an expert even though things were cleared just to be sure. We had it in our last house’s kitchen since it was from the 60s (asbestos-containing floor liner under our vinyl flooring) so we had to float a floor right over that (cork) since tearing it out is really dangerous. Here’s that post if it helps!

      xo
      s

  5. Pat says

    What room is above this space? You may need to replace the insulation or you’ll have a cold room. I.e. rooms above garages in every Mike Holmes show.

  6. says

    I’m no expert, but my guess is that those joists were just for attaching the ceiling to (since they don’t appear to be holding anything up), so I bet you can just pry them out, remove the board where they attach to the house, and keep on keeping on.

    • says

      This certainly appears to be the case, especially as they are “shaved at the end where the clearance beneath the roof is low. This would be an AWFUL place to have a reduce cross section if these were load-bearing. Furthermore, they just appear (in those pictures at least) to be attached to the side of the roof beams.

      Just because they do not bear an overhead load though does not mean they serve NO purpose. They MAY be there to stop the frame from warping; i.e. the square shape of the frame could become a parallelogram with out something making the exterior edges rigid. If that is the case, there should still be an easy fix.

    • says

      After a second look, noting they are just attached to that ledger board, and not the actual frame of your house it looks pretty obvious that their only purpose was to hold up that ceiling.

      Also, WHY WAS THERE INSULATION THERE? Maybe the previous owners were TRYING to grow mold?!?

  7. Liz says

    It’s looking good! It looks much more porch-y with the ceiling removed! Can’t wait to see the next steps. :)

  8. says

    Y’all are amazing. I feel inspired to get to work on my projects this morning, seeing how much work you all put in every day. I can’t wait to see what sort of awesome this ends up being!

    • says

      Thanks so much Melanie! You’re so sweet. The funny thing is that you guys inspire us to keep moving and share every detail, so it’s a two-way inspiration street. Corny but true.

      xo
      s