We named the rug in the sunroom Stinky. We were feeling literal, and it was damp in the corners from moisture seeping into the sunroom from bad seals in the old sliders and some wood rot. The previous owners knew there was a moisture issue (along with a serious smell issue) in there, which definitely came into play when they set the low-enough-to-be-in-our-range listing price, so although this rug sounds like a curse, we actually consider it to be a blessing (heck, if we can take care of something that might turn off other buyers and it helps us afford a house that we LOVE, we’re all about it).
So here’s how we got that rug up and outta there along with the glued down rug pad underneath – and some pretty serious nails and staples that were lurking below. First we yanked up the rug in the corner using a small crowbar to free it up from some of the nails in the tack strips around the perimeter of the room that were holding it in place.
After we got the rug free from the tack strips around the edges of the room, we rolled each side like a scroll, towards the midpoint of the room. Once we got them there in the middle, we used a box cutter to slice the rug in half so it was easier to carry out of there (you can cut a rug before you roll it, but we found that the extra slack that it gained after it was rolled made cutting it easier once it was in this position). Then we carried each section away while trying not to inhale or think about how much of our body it was touching.
Next we attacked the rug pad, which sadly was glued all over the place (we hoped it was just a floating pad so the concrete under it wouldn’t have glue stains out the wazoo). Soon enough… we hit glue. Boo, glue, boo. And suddenly this post is an ode to Dr Seuss.
Oh well, still had to get it outta there, glue stains and all. We yanked up as much as we could with our hands and for the areas that were super stuck to the glue, we used the same $25 floor scraper from Home Depot that had come in handy when we removed the carpet in the upstairs bedrooms. It has a pretty sharp and smooth blade at the end of it, so just like you’d use a razor to get paint off glass, you run it across the floor with some force and it basically slices the glue right off so the floor is smooth and flush again.
So glad the glue bumps could be removed, even if the glue stains were still there (I’ll show you those a little closer in a second).
While I was slicing my way around with the floor scraper (yes, with my dangly earrings on because I’m cool like dat) John got to work on busting the tack strips out from around the perimeter of the room. They were basically spindly old wood strips with nails sticking up that had held the carpet in place, and they were a pain to get up since they were so brittle (they kept splintering and breaking instead of coming up all as one strip – even when John worked the prybar under them every few inches to pry them away from the floor). It probably took a good hour and a half just to get the rug pad, excess glue, and tack strips up after spending about ten minutes pulling up the carpet itself.
Once all the tack strips, random nails, and glue spots were up it was time for the shop vac. First I picked out the longer shards of wood to bag and dispose of separately (no sense in trying to suck up a foot-long shard of wood with the shop vac) but all of the small splinters of wood, nails, balls of glue, and tufts of old carpet got swept into piles and vacuumed up.
And with that, the room turned a corner. The raw concrete, even with the glue stains that it has, is definitely an improvement on the swampy old carpet.
And thanks to my little scraper action, the entire floor is flush and smooth now, even with those frustrating glue stains that have soaked into the concrete (at least they no longer bump out along with a slew of nails and staples).
So we think a good cleaning followed by a coat of stain & odor blocking primer (just to be sure the stink is really gone) along with some porch and floor paint will cover up those stains, seal in any lingering smells (so they won’t waft out to greet us on a hot day), and we’ll have a room that’s approximately 98% more pleasant to be in.
And down the line we have big plans for this room. So beyond this little carpet’s-gotta-go first step, we’d love to…
Rip up old stinky carpet and padding- Scrub the concrete and seal in the smell somehow (so it doesn’t leech odor forever)
- Stain or paint the concrete floor as part of Phase 1*
- Permanently remove the half-broken base heater
- Eventually retile the floor with outdoor-safe stone to upgrade the old concrete floors (down the line for Phase 2)
- Convert sunroom to an open covered porch with new columns and no more sliders (many of the sliders are bad and the posts are rotten) – we’re envisioning something like this
- Possibly build a brick outdoor fireplace off of the sunroom after we open it up? Kind of like this, but different…
- Add beadboard to the ceiling and paint it soft blue?
* This is just a first-thought brain dump, so if we learn that painting the floor won’t allow us to tile it down the road, we’ll course correct and share the new plan as we go
So glad to have that old carpet gone. Even though we had to carry it out to the garage ourselves (which sends a shiver up my spine every time I think about it) it was totally worth it to have it outta there.
Psst- Clara’s having more conversations over on Young House Life. Number 5 made us laugh until we cried.
When we pulled up our equally nasty carpet (except it was in our living room – I shudder at the memory), we very liberally sprayed the floor with an enzyme product called Anti-Icky-Poo (yeah, I know). It’s intended for dog and cat urine clean-up but it works on most organic smells. Our cement went from gag-worthy to totally non-stinky after 2 really good doses. We got ours, in gallon size, from the local vet.
Great tip! Thanks!
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I’ve heard wonderful things about anti-icky-poo! You can buy on Amazon as well! :)
I second this stuff! It’s better than any other urine clean-up product out there (like Nature’s Miracle). I will say that there is a bit of a fragrance to it, and I always prefer to let that fragrance air out, too.
Great tips guys, thanks!
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Anti Icky Poo is a miracle product. We use it on our concrete garage floor to tackle odors. Might be worth spraying a good layer of Anti Icky Poo before using the odor blocking primer just to be extra sure the smell will disappear for good.
This is officially on my list! Now I can’t wait. Haha!
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Zero Odor is another good one – I believe you can get at Bed Bath & Beyond now. My poor kitty had some UTI and poop issues and that stuff was a godsend regarding odor elimination.
Does every house in your area have a sunroom? They aren’t common here but you seem to have one in each home!
Another reason not to live in Canada perhaps??
They do seem to be really common here! We had never heard of them before moving down here though.
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I’ve wondered the same thing! Here in NY some houses have them but not a whole lot. Lucky! :)
They are actually really common out here in Eastern Canada. It’s my dream to have one in our first home! I can’t get enough natural light – the brighter, the better.
Here in southeastern Ontario they are extremely popular. I live in an older neighbourhood full of tiny little houses and many of them (including ours) have them. And actually my grandmother’s house in Alberta had one, too!
You’d never heard of a sunroom before?! Wut the WUT?!
I love your sun room. And although the ideas you have are gorgeous for the room, would you miss having a sunny, but warm spot, in the winter time? I have a deck and always wish to glass it in for more use (here in NC we have MOSQUITOS in the summer, yuck! And chilly winters).
Nah, we didn’t use either of our old sunrooms in the winter (the heating system is no match for all those doors, which aren’t energy efficient at all) so we only used them in the spring/summer/fall anyway – so this plan won’t be any different :)
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Oh man, look at that water damage on the bottom. Bleck! So long Stinky, indeed! Dangly earrings make scraping seem less like work and more like fun…well, from my perspective. :)
I know you do monthly wrap ups with superlatives, but have you considered doing a 3 House Superlatives or Comparatives? Most favorite project? Cheapest fix? Stinkiest?
It might be fun.
That would be fun!
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Do you not get mosquitoes? That is why I am always surprised when you mention converting the sunroom to a covered porch. I, personally, would want an outdoor room with mosquito protection. :) But it is, of course, your house and maybe you are some of those lucky people who don’t get bitten! If so: Jealous!
There’s a ceiling fan in there, so even with the doors wide open they tend to stay away (we get them, but they hate wind/breezes, so fans are the best defense).
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Love that Sherry wears earrings for heavy duty DIY projects!
Hehe. You said, “duty.”
…and lovely Kendra Scott earrings to boot!
Have you guys thought about mopping the concrete with a vinegar solution? I know you’ve used vinegar to remove the smell from musty thrift store furniture, so I wonder if it would work here?
Haven’t tried it, but I love that idea!
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We used vinegar to remove 60+ years of smoke and tar from our house and it worked amazingly well! Of course, for about two days our house smelled like a pickle but it was worth it!
Haha!
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Even though it’s stinky and gross right now I’m glad you appreciate the potential there. You’re so fortunate to already have the structure present to pretty up. If I want a covered porch I’d need to spend thousands of dollars having a roof extension built, no fun!
Tile would look great out there, but if the slab isn’t cracked or anything maybe you could have it professionally stained? It looks fabulous when they stain it to look like natural stone. It might be a lot cheaper than tiling too, and would certainly be faster. If you do tile maybe you could use something that would tie in to your foyer stone?
I’m not sure it would work due to the glue (the stain would have to be opaque, and not translucent at all) but it’s a fun idea to explore!
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I think if you were to have the concrete refinished, it would actually go through a “sanding/buffing” stage, prior to staining and that might actually get rid of the glue stain. Would be a great option! :)
Great tip!
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Good bye stinky, indeed. Our first townhome had several dogs and cats, a smoker, several places of water damage, and owners that were not fastidious cleaners. Don’t miss those early days. Random question: will opening up the sunroom decrease the SF of the house? I’m all for making a house work for me, just curious if that would be the case.
Yup, but when we eventually finish the storage space (which is all framed, heated/cooled, and wired for electrical) the SF will be even bigger than it was when we bought the house, so we’ll lose some and gain more later ;)
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Maybe it’s because I haven’t finished my coffee yet but I cannot figure out what SF means??
Help a little lady out!
Square footage. Jeez, self. Ha!
Haha, you got it!
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Love John’s face! (an eewww nasty carpet kinda look) As for Sherry, tres chic. I don’t even look that good out and about. Looking good! (the sunroom and you two)
Love the Phase 2 open porch. Can’t wait for Phase 1 – give us color hints, please! I’m digging salmons, pinks and turquoises right now, but that’s probably because winter was so long in MN that I glob onto anything tropical.
We really liked the chocolate floor in our last sunroom, so maybe that (so it blends with the wood deck outside?)
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Yesss! Looks so much better already and what a relief knowing that other people’s mess is outta there. I love your plans to open this space up and replace the old, dark sliders with columns – it’ll be much more airy and probably add more light into the family room as an added bonus. The cherry on top would be a true Southern sky blue ceiling on that porch. Maybe a lovely porch swing with cozy cushions to sip lemonade on?
Whoa! I was wondering who the stranger was in the first picture until I stared at it long enough to realize it’s John! Something about the lighting/angle makes him look super tan and with gray hair. Haha!
Haha! Boy does get tan, and his dirty blonde hair has some gray depending on the angle. I call him my Anderson Cooper.
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I was wondering the same thing! Then I saw that the body looked like John’s, so I thought that they had stuck someone else’s head on his body. I was so confused!
I noticed the gray look to John’s hair in that pic, too. At least Sherry knows her man is still going to look sexy when he’s truly gray-haired! #iknowhesyours
I love it! His mom has the most beautiful gray hair. She’s a fox, and John is too. Haha!
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I though John was someone else as well. He actually reminded me of Zaib Shaikh – though I am guessing this is a Canadian reference so you may not know who I am talking about (see – http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1778897/).
Any other photo and I would never in a million years have though of this comparison (well I guess their build may be similar).
I was wondering the exact same thing Sherry & Lindsey. I am really likeing the gray, you sexy young lad/mini Cooper (= (I am probably in the minority of the daily readers age here though, uhhumm late 40’s) Love you guys!!!
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Haha, he’s mah silver fox.
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This thread makes me laugh – I have a heavy dose of grey on the top of my head, but it doesn’t really jump out at you unless I’m under a bright light. Apparently my office elevators have bright lights, because twice in the past couple of months people in the elevator have complemented my hair and then asked where I go to have it “frosted.” I mean, come on – I thought people stopped frosting their hair back in the early 90s. Both women were somewhat mortified when I responded “uh, thanks, but that’s just grey hair.”
Haha I had to do a double take also. My husband is now in his very late 40’s with salt and pepper hair. It’s so gorgeous in the sunlight. I tell him it looks so sparkly:)
Haha, like a Twilight vampire…
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Haha I came in here to say something about John’s hair too! Too funny. He can definitely pull it off!
I did a triple take as well! I first opened the post and thought, “well! they finally hired some work out, but it was for carpet removal?? Really??” It wasn’t until after I started reading I went back and looked at the image closely to realize it was John! too funny
I’m surprised you’re not wearing any masks! The smell of wet stinky dog has got to be the worst spell on the planet.
I don’t comment much, but this post, and the possibilities that ensue made me literally gasp and “Wow!” out loud! I can’t wait for phase 2! I admire your vision and ability to see the possibilities!
I can’t believe that you said “cut a rug” without any dancing jokes. :)
D’oh!
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Haha, my thoughts exactly Jessi!
I was about to comment the same thing!
I know you’re used to giving tips and not getting them, but buy some knee pads. Your 40 year-old knees will thank you…
Doing home repair WHILE wearing cute earrings. Sherry, you have reached hero status in my world.
Haha, if only I had heels on and my hair down…
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Is that brick along the edges under the sliders?
Yes, isn’t that charming?
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I skeeve slimy stinky carpet too – congrats on getting this crossed off your list! Did you remove the carpet from the step too? Is that also concrete? I think it’d be cool to see you do something unique with the step in phase one if possible.
i.e. http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-6LrzXYNnH2U/UXlsvNSVYkI/AAAAAAAAED4/Wt8gZkn8at4/s1600/after0-1.jpg
That would be awesome! It’s actually still carpeted (the shame!) – it was really tightly secured so we’re saving our energy…
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I was wondering about that carpeted step, too. I suggest working up the energy soon! Of course, who knows what might be under it?
And I totally LOL’d at this line: “Then we carried each section away while trying not to inhale or think about how much of our body it was touching.” I have SOOO been there! Glad to know not just me :)
Making progress, step by step. Keep it up!
Love your ideas ! Great inspirational pics! Ya’ll are creative!
A big covered back porch with columns sounds lovely!!!
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I always love your posts, but I always wonder the same thing. Does it get bothersome to stop for pictures all the time? I know this blog is your job, but I feel like when I’m working on a big project like this, I just need to keep momentum! Always wondered about that … :)
It definitely slows you down (I always joke we could move twice as fast if we didn’t stop for pics, edit them, and write about things) but at this point after over 5 years of blogging it’s sort of second nature to us. We love sharing things so it’s worth the little built-in pauses… and we get to take a breather, haha!
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Pretty soon you can train Clara up to be your photographer. :)
That would be hilarious. We’d get 500 photos of her toes, bugs, and blurry Burger.
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looks like you are off to a great start! aren’t there concrete floor cleaners – where they clean stains off a garage floor etc. maybe the smell will clean right off ?
but then you’d have to hose off the cleaner & not sure how that will work with the surrounding wood deck boards.
Oh yes, we can definitely use something to try to scrub the smell out of it, but thanks to the glue stains, in order to hide those we’ll have to paint them or retile eventually…
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I’m thinking a power washer is in order before sealing this. :)
Oh man, John would love that…
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I second the power washer step. And then a good mopping with bleach-water to disinfect, followed by a long spell to fully dry before sealing. Never know what toxins/bacteria/viral bugs could be lurking, and a deep cleaning and good airing out may kill whatever’s living within.
Yuck!
You might want to try an enzyme cleaner before trying to do a sealer thing and see if it does the trick and maybe see if there is something to remove the glue stains. Not sure if putting tile on top of paint would be a good idea without first removing the tile. I’m thinking does the thinset adhere well to the paint and stay or will the paint come loose and you’ll end up with loose tiles. Just thinking longer term.
Yeah, we thought about that too, I think we’ll definitely keep Phase 2 in mind before we do anything rushed for Phase 1. We like when things can just build on each other, so if there’s any way to remove glue stains without painting we’d love to hear them!
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A good soap and water scrub, followed by a pressure wash might be a good idea before sealing. The wood could probably use a scrub too. No sense in sealing in bad smells that can be washed away.
We’re definitely going to give that a try in the meantime!
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Awesome. Can’t wait to see how your plans come together.
Before you even mentioned the earrings I was thinking “those two always look so nice when working on their house.”
I can’t wait for phase 2! I know there will be people who think it is crazy to lose that sqftg, but I am sure you will make up for it in the added storage room upstairs. Plus, outdoor living space can add as much value to a home as making other major updates inside the home. (Especially when the outdoor space can be used lots of months of the year!)Great progress!
Oh yes, the heater out there is so wonky, it wasn’t really a heated and cooled space to begin with, so a room that can be used seasonally will continue to be a seasonal space, and that unfinished storage room upstairs is about 3 times larger, so we’ll gain everything we lose and then some :)
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This house was meant for you guys! I love all the plans for the outdoor area.
Looks much better already!
I have to say I love the idea of a covered patio. I’ve never been a big fan of sunrooms because it seems like an unnecessary middle between indoor and outdoor. But a covered porch is so lovely and cozy! Can’t wait to see how you guys transform the space!
Looks better already!!
I love having a light blue ceiling on a porch! My parents have a huge screened in porch with a stormy blue painted concrete floor with a light blue ceiling and the color combination is wonderful. Old Southerners also say having a light blue ceiling on a porch wards off mosquitoes too. Not sure how but come to think of it we don’t have too many bug issues on our porch so I guess what they say is true! Can’t wait to see what y’all do next! Loving this process!!
This room is going to be amazing! Such a great space!
Murphys oil soap works wonders at removing bad odors, could be worth a try. The room looks great! I hope you leave it enclosed!
Thanks for the odor tips everyone!
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Loving the open porch and fireplace possibilities! It’s so great to see you continue improving older homes. Before you announced you were moving I was worried what would happen once you completed your now-old home. For completely selfish reasons of course. I don’t know what I would do without my daily dose of you four!
Rocking the glue-scraper in your Kendra Scott earrings Sher! Keeping it classy.
Werk.
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Wow!! Those two pins of what you are imagining – oh my! This is why you are my first read every morning. You never hesitate to think of and re-envision something brand new. I would just feel like I was at the world’s most expensive retreat if that was my house. I can’t wait to see how you transform this house! What a ride!
I love the porch you are envisioning for the future. Could you use a concrete stain instead of paint to camouflage the glue stains? Maybe get a marbled effect by doing that.
I’m not sure any see-through stain would do much to hide those glue stains (we assume the stain would just bond to the glue more and look darker in those spots) but we’ll have to test things out and see where we end up!
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J&S,
This has nothing to do with your post, but thought I’d stop in with a little corny joke. What’s brown and sticky?
Hmmm… a stick!
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I miss your old house :(
BUT
I LOVE checking to see what you are doing everyday in your new one. :)
After seeing yours, and many other VA bloggers, sun rooms I’m convinced that I have the only house in Richmond without one. I would love to have a sun room off the back of our house!
Aw man, maybe yours just hasn’t been added yet… hint hint! Haha! Almost all of them seem to be additions that were put on later for added space. Maybe someday…
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Looks better already!! I have never understood why some people put wall to wall carpeting in a sunroom. It seems they either choose a pile carpeting or that nasty indoor/outdoor stuff in a weird color, yuck! Can’t wait to see what you do with it :)
P.S. Did you find the source of the leak?
It’s just moisture seeping through bad sliders and wood rot, so we have to address those things as we go. Thankfully it’s not a leaking pipe or anything…
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I agree with you on the carpet in a sunroom being a bad idea. The house I bought has berber carpet in there and it’s just a mess with all the mud and dirt that my dogs drag in. I can’t wait until I can do a little sprucing up out there and replace the carpet with some kind of tile!
You guys are like rug removing pros now.
Side note: Fox in Socks is one of favorite books. Not kids books. Books. Love the reference.
Sometimes before polishing and staining concrete, folks grind the surface. That can expose some of the aggregate pattern (which some people prefer), but I wonder if that would be an effective way to remove the stained surface. I know the grinders can be rented.
That’s a good idea! Have to look into that!
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Wow – what amazing inspiration photos you have for your future porch! I can’t wait to watch the progress. In other news, I found Sherry’s twin: Emilia Clarke from Game of Thrones: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3592338/.
She’s my sister from another mister. Except she’s naked on TV a lot more than I am. Haha!
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‘Cause you’ve only been naked on TV once or twice, right? ;-)
I think three times, but it was at 2am when nobody watches ;)
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The night before we were planning to remove the carpet that came with our house, our dog got sick while we were out for dinner and a movie. She managed to keep her sickness in a 5ft area so when we got home to the mess that night we just took a razor blade and cut out the square while trying not laugh (and puke) at the coincidence. We threw the square away and went to bed to rest up for a long day of carpet removal.
She had never had any accidents in the house before and It was gross, but she had impeccable timing!
So funny! It’s like she knew.
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Am I the only one that had to re-read the line “you can cut a rug before you roll it” about 4 times to make sure I wasn’t missing a legendary Petersik pun?
Turns out I was the one missing it. haha!
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SO. MUCH. BETTER.
Can’t wait to see how it progresses. I would love to paint it with that big lace stencil from Royal Design (I’m totally obsessed with it but have nowhere to use it). Or a herringbone pattern. But I know whatever y’all do will look great.
We just did the same thing in our house and were worried about sealing in the pet urine stink when we painted (still able to smell it, but not able to get it out due to the paint). We mopped the floor with several things to get the odor out – first vinegar, then enzyme cleaner (BioKleen), then heavy duty Simple Green when the first two things helped but didn’t get rid of all the odor. Now the odor is gone. We used Behr Masonry Primer and their Porch & Floor paint. For us it was definitely worth it to try and remove the smell before painting!
Really smart!
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