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Young House Love » Our Second House » Whew. Comment Explosion.

| By Sherry Petersik | September 1, 2011 | 381 Comments

Whew. Comment Explosion.

Who knew a half-baked banquette idea could bring on the chatter like that? Over 800 comments within a few hours time? Insanity. We’re loving all of the ideas and suggestions that you guys are throwing into the pot and promise to keep you posted every step of the way! There are definitely a lot more things to consider and nothing’s set in stone, so I think we’ll probably change our plan by the minute. But you know we’ll gab incessantly about it to anyone who’s willing to listen as we go.

In the meantime, since I should be painting office cabinets (but haven’t had a second to tear myself away from the blog), I thought it would be fun to share this awesome rendering that a sweet (and apparently very good at Photoshop) reader named Amber sent our way:

No John1

Now can you kind of start to picture it? Of course lots of things might be different (the counter might not be that color, the table might not be that shape/color, the lights may change/move, the floor will change, the cabinets won’t be brown and have eyeballs on them, there might be open shelves on the back of the banquette instead of just cabinetry, etc). Basically nothing that you see up there is “for sure,” but it definitely helps us start to picture it. So we thought sharing it might help you guys too. And a big wet kiss goes out to Amber for her ninja-like photoshop skillz.

I think the hardest thing for people to “see” before this rendering (us included) is that the banquette won’t block any more of the room than the table that used to sit there did. And people sitting at the banquette will have the same open POV that they would have had at the table (since the banquette seating will be the same height as table seating). And the countertops behind the banquette will also be around the same height as the base cabinets in the room. So hopefully it won’t feel closed off at all (everyone can see over base cabinets… well, except for Clara and Burger). Look, here’s John faux sitting in the new area now:

John Sitting1

Now that we see this we’re thinking it could be cute to even add two small stools to the back of the banquette so that the closest-to-the-kitchen countertop could be used as a casual seating area too. Not sure though, because it might also be great prep space. And I can definitely picture us using it to set out things like appetizers if we’re entertaining. It’s all complete speculation and guess work at this point! But thanks again for all of the suggestions this morning. Who knows where we’ll end up!

On and there were actually a few folks who thought seating that faced the hallway and the fireplace was less intuitive than something that faced the work area of the kitchen, but we like the counter being the close part to the work area, and also think the two best views of the room are the frame wall and the fireplace. Plus I’m not mad at the fact that I wouldn’t have to look at a sink full of dirty dishes when I’m relaxing in my nook. Haha. Also because that fireplace is in the corner of the room, turning the L to face the other way (with the seating looking back at the prep area of the kitchen) wouldn’t solve the balance issue that the L-shaped arrangement does when it faces the fireplace. Hopefully this sketch makes more sense of the reasons why (top setup: what we want to do, bottom setup: what it would look like flipped):

Banquette Flipped

See how that fireplace in the corner would make way less sense that way? Sorry for not including a sketch like this in this morning’s post for ya.

Anyway, you’ll have to excuse me, I have some office cabinetry to paint. I bought some new stuff last night (Benjamin Moore Advance paint) and I hear it’s awesome for cabs, so I can’t wait to pop back in with all those details – probably early next week if I ever get all those coats done and snap some photos. Anyone else painting cabinets? Or dreaming of banquettes?

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Comments

  1. Avatar for DeeJay ConleyDeeJay Conley says

    September 1, 2011 at 2:23 pm

    What?! Am I first to comment?! Wowza! Okay, off to read your post now. lol

    xo

    Reply
    • Avatar for bridget b.bridget b. says

      September 1, 2011 at 2:31 pm

      hey, no fair commenting before reading! :) so in my mind, i’m officially the first commenter. lol!

  2. Avatar for bridget b.bridget b. says

    September 1, 2011 at 2:27 pm

    wow! that image really does help. from the kitchen and dining room, it basically looks like an island until you go to the side where there is seating.

    you guys are so visionary!

    Reply
  3. Avatar for LisaLisa says

    September 1, 2011 at 2:28 pm

    Wow, Amber did a GREAT job helping everyone visualize this! I wasn’t sold on it before, but this has totally convinced me that it would work beautifully! (I also love that the peak into the dining room shows wainscoting on the walls..I see another project being added to your list!)

    Reply
    • Avatar for YoungHouseLoveYoungHouseLove says

      September 1, 2011 at 2:31 pm

      Haha- I love that she added something for my to-do list!

      xo,
      s

  4. Avatar for Heather WHeather W says

    September 1, 2011 at 2:29 pm

    What is going on. I could see all your pics on the blog yesterday and now they are gone???? What changed. I can see your wedding pics still and your old house tour most of those pics are there but your current house tour pics are not there just a white box with a red x. All was fine yesterday.??????

    Reply
    • Avatar for YoungHouseLoveYoungHouseLove says

      September 1, 2011 at 2:31 pm

      So sorry- nothing on our end changed. We have stored our photos in the same spot for the last three years. Maybe your office blocked them? Or it’s just a passing glitch?

      xo
      s

    • Avatar for Heather WHeather W says

      September 1, 2011 at 2:50 pm

      It looks like the address under properties for some of your pics are different.

      I can see all wedding pics except one and all of the old house tour pics except a few etc. Anything lately I can’t see anymore.

      Under the post from two days ago where you show your kitchen cabinet drawer w/your tools to show it painted but the inside still wood. That is the only pic I can see but the property address for that is http;??ww.younghouselove.comp wp-content/uploads2009/04web/kitchendrawers.for

      Pics I can’t see have an address under properties that have
      http://images.younghouselove.com.53.amazonaws.com/2011/08/officecab-prep.

      So there is a difference now that is impacting my computer at work which has had no changes made to it. So any pics with out the amazon address are not showing now but other pics that don’t have that under the properties will???? Just wanted to let you know. so disappointed……;(

    • Avatar for YoungHouseLoveYoungHouseLove says

      September 1, 2011 at 2:54 pm

      Yes, very few photos on our site are stored on our actual site server (the ones that you can still see). The reason for this is because when we store more on our YHL server we crash almost instantaneously. There’s just no wiggle room for the hundreds of pics we post each month. So we pay around 12K a year (ouch) to store them on amazon.cloud, which we have been doing for the past three years. They’ve always been there and we didn’t change anything, but we’re so sorry your office or computer is blocking them for some reason. We wish there was something we could do on our end!

      xo,
      s

    • Avatar for Heather WHeather W says

      September 1, 2011 at 3:11 pm

      oops meant with amazon address won’t show. If pic doesn’t have amazon address is still showing. Sorry.

    • Avatar for YoungHouseLoveYoungHouseLove says

      September 1, 2011 at 3:12 pm

      Yup, that makes total sense to me. Did you see my reply above? Hope it helps!

      xo,
      s

    • Avatar for JaneJane says

      September 1, 2011 at 3:13 pm

      It’s weird, as of this morning I too can not see the photos – and I’m friends with the tech guy and he said nothing changed. Not that I read blogs at work. :)
      It’s extra weird because none of the ads are blocked, which would be more likely to happen in this office.

    • Avatar for YoungHouseLoveYoungHouseLove says

      September 1, 2011 at 3:16 pm

      So sorry for the trouble Jane (and Heather W!) – we did hear from a few others who couldn’t see pics this morning and they’re inexplicably back now, so maybe it’s some sort of regional glitch?! Wish we could do things on our end, but photos aren’t something we really do anything with. We just upload them and put them into the post and click publish. And the hosting site/uploading method has been the same for the past 3 years. Sad you can’t see things though!

      xo,
      s

    • Avatar for AllisonAllison says

      September 1, 2011 at 3:31 pm

      I am having the same problem too!

    • Avatar for YoungHouseLoveYoungHouseLove says

      September 1, 2011 at 3:44 pm

      Just out of curiosity, are any of you on home computers or all on work ones?

      xo,
      s

    • Avatar for Heather W.Heather W. says

      September 1, 2011 at 9:56 pm

      PICS ARE BACK… PICS ARE BACK!!!!! It hasn’t worked all day and just now thought I would try again and pics are there. I knew nothing had changed at work.. Wierd.. Oh well I can dry my tears now :) whoop whoop! Just wanted to let you know.

    • Avatar for YoungHouseLoveYoungHouseLove says

      September 1, 2011 at 10:30 pm

      So sorry for the trouble- but so glad they’re back! So strange.

      xo,
      s

  5. Avatar for Rebecca @ the lil house that couldRebecca @ the lil house that could says

    September 1, 2011 at 2:29 pm

    Hm more suggestions! :)

    After your first post, I immediately thought of stools on the dining room side to continue the openly flow of the two rooms. Then you’d keep your prep space closest to the kitchen and not block off the walkway.

    Reply
    • Avatar for YoungHouseLoveYoungHouseLove says

      September 1, 2011 at 2:30 pm

      Yup, that’s in my little write-up here! Haha. After seeing it I thought two small stools could be cute- although they might be in the way if we end up using the counter as more of a prep space. Not sure!

      xo,
      s

    • Avatar for Rebecca @ the lil house that couldRebecca @ the lil house that could says

      September 1, 2011 at 3:26 pm

      You said on the counter closest to the kitchen right? I meant the other side, so that the stools face the fireplace. I read, I did not cheat :)

      Though I’m not sure if that would get in the way of the flow of the walkway on that side then!

    • Avatar for YoungHouseLoveYoungHouseLove says

      September 1, 2011 at 3:27 pm

      Ohhh, gotcha! That could be cute too!

      xo,
      s

  6. Avatar for Janelle DJanelle D says

    September 1, 2011 at 2:30 pm

    I resisted commenting on the previous banquette post because I wasn’t sure if I was feeling it yet. I wanted to let it sink in and see if I was buying what you’re selling… Haha. But after seeing this post, I had to comment. I’m liking it. The visual mockup really helps to picture what it’ll look like! It’s unusual, but in a fresh, fun, unique way… not in a what were they thinking way. I agree with the open shelving that you mentioned or glass doors that a commenter came up with. I can’t wait to see what you come up with (for this project and the new desk)!

    Reply
  7. Avatar for LindsayLindsay says

    September 1, 2011 at 2:31 pm

    Awesome image! I love how she removed the wall going into the dining room too. I agree that this is the best layout. At first I thought you would want it open to the kitchen but it makes sense that you don’t want to stare at any mess you may have in there. I think putting a couple seats against the back of it would be good too. Especially for when Clara gets older.

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  8. Avatar for Janelle DJanelle D says

    September 1, 2011 at 2:31 pm

    Sorry for the double comment, but also if you got those narrow stools they may be able to tuck right under the hypothetical counter. Voila, no issue with the prep space!

    Reply
  9. Avatar for StephanieStephanie says

    September 1, 2011 at 2:35 pm

    Ha, yeah I’m now trying to scroll back thru to see if my comment is still there and it’s all wonky! This is definitely a hot button topic!

    Reply
  10. Avatar for StephanieStephanie says

    September 1, 2011 at 2:36 pm

    I could picture it before I saw the photoshop images, which were extremely generous! Looks like a great solution. A place to put your stuff NEAR the kitchen table but not ON the kitchen table is brilliant! Good luck painting!

    Reply
  11. Avatar for KLLKLL says

    September 1, 2011 at 2:38 pm

    I think that the banquette actually saves the fireplace. Especially if it’s opened up to the living room. Just imagine sitting around a cozy comfy banquette playing board games with friends sipping hot cocoa around the fireplace. It will bring that ‘sitting around a campfire’ feeling into your kitchen and you’ll have it year ’round. I’m completely jealous.

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    • Avatar for Sarah W. in OregonSarah W. in Oregon says

      September 1, 2011 at 9:22 pm

      I agree. This idea totally blew my mind. It’s brilliant. That designer is super talented.

  12. Avatar for ValerieValerie says

    September 1, 2011 at 2:38 pm

    I love it… when Clara is ready to help you cook she can stand on the bench site with you guys on the opposite side so it’s perfect for both your heights…

    Reply
  13. Avatar for Rebecca TorresRebecca Torres says

    September 1, 2011 at 2:39 pm

    It looks like a cute idea… but it eats up so much space and makes the kitchen area look smaller as well as making the clear walkway disappear…. I would like to suggest an alternative that you may like. You know where your wall oven is? add a counter next to there that can be somewhat in your someday to be bigger wall opening somewhat, kind of making an L shape coming out of the wall.. this way you can more easily get to your counter space without having to walk so much, (which really helps when cooking) as well as having a seating/appetizer ready area on the other side of the counter where your guests can be seated as you prepare meals( or John and Clara ) :). You will also have room for a small table like you wanted (sans the banquette/unless you put it in the corner..?) It also makes the kitchen a little bit a part of the dining room which makes the two spaces seem larger. I could draw this up for you if you would like. I just think maybe you should look at an alternative that isn’t so awkward/ space consuming. I am not a designer or anything, just making a suggestion. BTW- I love your blog! :P

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    • Avatar for YoungHouseLoveYoungHouseLove says

      September 1, 2011 at 2:45 pm

      Thanks for the idea! We must admit we’re pretty excited about going down this route, but we know some folks would do things differently if it were their house! We fear that another table with the opening to the dining room nearby is just one table too many (two tables “in a row” kind of feel odd, which is why we love the banquette solution since it breaks them up). We also think since there will be so many nice airy doorways into the room that it’ll feel open and not too crowded (it’s a 25′ long room- so it really feels big in person!). We’ll just have to see where we end up!

      xo,
      s

    • Avatar for denisedenise says

      September 1, 2011 at 3:13 pm

      I like this idea a lot! I’ve been thinking since I read the original banquette idea this morning that the fireplace end of the room would look so great set up as a “keeping room” area with a couple of cushy chairs or even a loveseat. That would give seating for people to hang out while others are working in the kitchen and it would also provide a much more comfy place to sit by the fireplace. The solution of having a peninsula counter added would provide counter seating so there would be an area for homework, breakfast, etc.

      Really just a thought…it’s fun being able to dream up someone else’s room! I do like the banquette idea quite a bit as well.

      And btw, I have used the BM Advance paint to paint some cabinets recently. I love it for its self-leveling properties and its soap-and-water cleanup. But I will say that it took LOTS of coats (4 or 5?) to cover my white cabinets with a medium brown paint. Now that they’re done, they look terrific…very smooth and enamel-like.

    • Avatar for MeredithMeredith says

      September 1, 2011 at 5:24 pm

      LOVE LOVE the peninsula idea coming off the wall where the wall oven is. I just moved from a house with a peninsula and it was fantastic. Prep on the inside, “kitchen side” and bar seating on the other side. This is where my kids ate breakfast, after school snacks, did homework – so much easier to prep a PPJ sandwich and slide the plate over to them then carry it across the room with a counter in between. I loved that they could face me while we worked on prep. We usually kept 3 stools there but in a pinch could seat 5. You could still make a cozy sitting area facing the fireplace as a cool hang out spot.

    • Avatar for YoungHouseLoveYoungHouseLove says

      September 1, 2011 at 5:44 pm

      I think we just worry that creating a peninsula and then still having another area behind it to deal with (which wouldn’t be as big with the peninsula there) would be more of a challenge – and just break things up more. But a friend of mine had a peninsula and it looked great in her space!

      xo,
      s

  14. Avatar for MarieMarie says

    September 1, 2011 at 2:40 pm

    I think it is beautiful, but as mommy I would say be sure that beautiful banquette has nice smoothed edges and no sharp corners. I vowed never to have furniture with sharp corners, growing up in my house the coffee table always seemed to reach out and grab you as you walked by. May save you a trip to the ER :)

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    • Avatar for YoungHouseLoveYoungHouseLove says

      September 1, 2011 at 2:41 pm

      Great tip!

      xo,
      s

    • Avatar for AmyAmy says

      September 1, 2011 at 2:49 pm

      I love this tip! I’m VERY clumsy and I have had so many bruises from hitting sharp furniture. The banquette is a great idea!

    • Avatar for MarthaMartha says

      September 1, 2011 at 3:02 pm

      I was reluctant to share this comment, because of the huge response (and it may be buried in there somewhere), BUT I liked the curved upholstered banquet on the board for this space and for the round/oval table. You could still put cabinets in back and a counter on top. The cabinets could be angled to form a rough curve and the counter could be curved.

    • Avatar for YoungHouseLoveYoungHouseLove says

      September 1, 2011 at 3:03 pm

      Always another possibility!!

      xo,
      s

    • Avatar for RebeccaRebecca says

      September 1, 2011 at 3:25 pm

      I agree… the sharp corner on the L could be scary with little ones running around… maybe a rounded corner? I’m really starting to love the banquette idea!

  15. Avatar for BethanyBethany says

    September 1, 2011 at 2:40 pm

    I love the idea of the L-shaped Banquette table. Growing up, we had a booth in my kitchen and it was so cozy to sit in after school and have an after school snack and do homework there. It was also a good chance to be near my mom while she prepped dinner without being in her way. I can see Clara hanging out there down the road or having all of her friends pile around the table for breakfast during a sleepover.

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  16. Avatar for LindseyLindsey says

    September 1, 2011 at 2:42 pm

    Just a thought… Would you ever consider adding to your existing fireplace (to the right if you’re standing in front of it) to give it a longer look and make it appear to be centered. Leaving the actual hole where the fire sits, but adding more of whatever stone, tile or mantle you plan to revamp it with to the right side? I can picture cute cabinet cubbies for decorative accessories or storage. Maybe this would help solve the placement of an island or banquette. Let me know what you think!

    ps. LOVE the idea of a cozy banquette though. I’ve always wanted one!!

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    • Avatar for YoungHouseLoveYoungHouseLove says

      September 1, 2011 at 2:56 pm

      Always another possibility!

      xo,
      s

  17. Avatar for Jess @ Little House. Big Heart.Jess @ Little House. Big Heart. says

    September 1, 2011 at 2:42 pm

    Wow! That’s some mad Photoshop skills!

    I definitely understand better what you’re envisioning and how that helps to balance your fireplace. Will you be able to seat as many people as you would with a conventional table/island?

    Happy painting!

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    • Avatar for YoungHouseLoveYoungHouseLove says

      September 1, 2011 at 2:56 pm

      We probably could have seated 2-3 people at an island (since we planned to only have seating on one side) and Nancy thinks we could comfortably seat four around the banquette. Maybe even two more if we add casual stools to the outside. We’ll have to see!

      xo,
      s

  18. Avatar for JasonJason says

    September 1, 2011 at 2:44 pm

    So exciting to see that you like the idea of stools as I had mentioned in my comment to the earlier post! It makes me feel like I have the eye at about .01% the level of a Petersik! How exciting! Islandette here we come!

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    • Avatar for YoungHouseLoveYoungHouseLove says

      September 1, 2011 at 2:46 pm

      Haha- you started it all Jason! I couldn’t see it until Amber sent this to me, and then I thought… Jason was onto something. Haha.

      xo,
      s

    • Avatar for JasonJason says

      September 1, 2011 at 3:35 pm

      OMG I just realized she photoshopped the opening to the dining room and the view of the table and chairs too, I’m on overload! It’s all too fantastic looking!

    • Avatar for YoungHouseLoveYoungHouseLove says

      September 1, 2011 at 3:44 pm

      Hahaah, isn’t that awesome? I’m so ready. Somebody get me a sledgehammer!

      xo,
      s

  19. Avatar for SusanSusan says

    September 1, 2011 at 2:44 pm

    I think that I would close the door to the hallway (do you really need 4-5 doors to your kitchen?), do a U-shaped banquette, and add in additional storage or maybe even a small desk area in the corner opposite the fireplace.

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    • Avatar for Paula WPaula W says

      September 1, 2011 at 3:52 pm

      I’m thinking the same thing. For ME, I’d wall that hall doorway off and put a couch back there actually, with a nice table and a chair , facing back into the kitchen. But you have obviously been thinking about this space a lot longer than I have! :)

    • Avatar for ALittleBiteALittleBite says

      September 2, 2011 at 5:28 am

      Yes! That’s what I would do, too!

    • Avatar for ErinErin says

      September 2, 2011 at 7:58 am

      I was thinking the same thing, Susan! With the large [future] opening to the dining room and the opening to the living room, plus the opening to the laundry room and the one to the office, that’s a lot of “flow” and doorways for one poor little room to handle. :) It seems it might be even cozier if the opening to the hall was closed up and you could back up a couch with a round table and a couple or chairs or a banquette to that new wall as Paula W. said, plus would allow people to flow into and out of the kitchen, especially during entertaining, without disturbing the people who are sitting near the fireplace. And it would give you more space in the major flow area from the dining room to the living room.

    • Avatar for YoungHouseLoveYoungHouseLove says

      September 2, 2011 at 8:10 am

      We just love that view of the frame wall and the idea of an open feel in the hallway (as opposed to closing things in on that side and gaining a wall that’s 4′ closer). Since the lkitchen doesn’t have any windows (it’s completely internal) we love the doorways to let in light and keeping things feeling airy (we worry that more walls = more closed in/dark). It’s also the doorway that leads to the hall bathroom, which we think is nice for guests (instead of looping around through the living room).

      xo,
      s

  20. Avatar for Cara DCara D says

    September 1, 2011 at 2:44 pm

    I like that you can put stools around it for a breakfast bar too. It will look great!

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  21. Avatar for LoriLori says

    September 1, 2011 at 2:45 pm

    I’m about to paint cabinets in our kitchen…I want to raise my cabinets to the ceiling and do an open shelf underneath…we’ll see if that happens before.

    On a side note, you mentioned a couple of posts ago about not working on laminate…I actually peeled off our laminate and primed and painted the particle board underneath. I got lucky bc mine was relatively smooth…I did a polyacrylic coat just to give it some durability (the first “trial run” was the master bath — I figured it couldn’t get much worse than peeling laminate so I did a place that people don’t have to go.) Turns out it worked so I’m now doing the kitchen. (I spray painted my laminate counter tops and sealed them with Super Glaze…we’re on a serious budget around here.)

    I want a banquette in the corner of our kitchen for the kids…I’m thinking about checking Ana-White to see if I can make one……..

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    • Avatar for YoungHouseLoveYoungHouseLove says

      September 1, 2011 at 2:57 pm

      Wow- so awesome that you tackled laminate with success! Congrats!

      xo,
      s

  22. Avatar for CarolineCaroline says

    September 1, 2011 at 2:46 pm

    I still can’t decide if I am pro or con the banquette idea. My husband’s family house has a banquette seating area and it was limited in the amount of people you could comfortablly sit around a table for meals and/or conversation. Can we photoshop new floors to get a better sense?
    I love the wall cut-out and think that will add some much to the overall layout of your house!

    Reply
    • Avatar for YoungHouseLoveYoungHouseLove says

      September 1, 2011 at 2:55 pm

      Haha, how about we just share pics as we go! That’s a promise.

      xo,
      s

  23. Avatar for ChesleyChesley says

    September 1, 2011 at 2:47 pm

    I really like this banquette idea – a lot – and I like the rendering that has the banquette more open to the kitchen area. Good luck with the process and when you guys start to bottle and sell your energy and enthusiasm, I will be a buyer!

    Reply
  24. Avatar for Autumn Van WeirAutumn Van Weir says

    September 1, 2011 at 2:47 pm

    Visual mock-up= brilliant. I totally didn’t get it. I discussed it with a friend and fellow reader. I like it now! Especially with the open wall on the left.

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  25. Avatar for Caitlin @ Desert DomicileCaitlin @ Desert Domicile says

    September 1, 2011 at 2:47 pm

    I’ll be painting my kitchen cabinets this weekend thanks to your tutorials :D

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  26. Avatar for SherriSherri says

    September 1, 2011 at 2:49 pm

    I like the stool idea, but also think bookshelves with cookbooks and such would be great! We have them currently on shelves in our pantry, and I’d much prefer them in a more accessble place in our kitchen.

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  27. Avatar for sarasara says

    September 1, 2011 at 2:51 pm

    who needs sketchup when you have amber?! i think this is a FAB idea! i was worried about it being too big, but with the opening to the dining room, i don’t feel that way at all. WOW! i’m dreaming of all the functionality you could do with that now….sitting, eating, storage, even a few bar stools for fun sitting….or extending the counter to make for a great prep are….(i see rolling out cookie dough with clara standing on the other side helping) i like the seating facing the fireplace much more than the kitchen too. :)

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  28. Avatar for JCJC says

    September 1, 2011 at 2:51 pm

    Boo – i can’t see any photos in any of the posts since your upgrade :(

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    • Avatar for YoungHouseLoveYoungHouseLove says

      September 1, 2011 at 3:00 pm

      Our photos are stored on a separate site (amazon.cloud) which is where they’ve been for the past three years. So nothing has changed with them with our site redesign or anything. Wish we could do something on our end, but it seems like maybe your office is just blocking them? Or some anti-virus software is going it? So sorry, wish we could do something on our end but nothing has changed!

      xo,
      s

  29. Avatar for elle C.elle C. says

    September 1, 2011 at 2:53 pm

    So I always hate to leave a negative comment because I figure it’s your house and we’re simply privileged to see any of it at all, so it’s best to be encouraging on the things we like (which I love just about everything about your house). But I’m not a fan of this lay-out. Even with it being the same proportions as a dining table would be, it just seems to visually block the space and seems like an anomaly in the kitchen. I love the idea of a banquet facing the fireplace though.

    It seems like you need more countertop/workspace in the kitchen. What if your intended doorway to the dining room was either moved slightly further toward the kitchen or made slightly narrower, and you put the banquette in the far corner still facing the fireplace with a large rug that connects the banquette to the fireplace as a single unit? Then if you get a range/oven combo, you could take out the tall oven column and extend some counter space out from where your current oven is in an L-shape. Your counters would be much closer to where you’re actually working in the kitchen and you’d have that whole “work-triangle” thing going on.

    It’s hard to tell how much space you actually have from pictures, and I wish I had mad Photoshopping skillz too. But more power to ya on whatever you decide to do, and it’s fun to watch the process.

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    • Avatar for YoungHouseLoveYoungHouseLove says

      September 1, 2011 at 3:02 pm

      Thanks for the suggestions Elle C! There are probably lots of other options, so it’ll just come down to seeing what we like the best. But you know we’ll keep you posted every step of the way!

      xo,
      s

  30. Avatar for kristinkristin says

    September 1, 2011 at 2:53 pm

    I really love the banquet idea. Just curious though…do you guys think you will have enough counter space/prep space with out adding the island? It’s hard to tell from pictures if there’s a decent amount of usable counter space. Anyway, can’t wait to see the progress and final outcome!

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    • Avatar for YoungHouseLoveYoungHouseLove says

      September 1, 2011 at 2:59 pm

      Oh yeah- chef John (haha, he does all the cooking) said he was o-ok with the L shaped counter we already have in the prep area. Whew.

      xo,
      s

  31. Avatar for Jill C.Jill C. says

    September 1, 2011 at 2:54 pm

    Do it!! I built my own L-shaped banquette (in a corner, so not as complex as yours’ll be) and I LOVE it – I spend way more time there than I ever would’ve expected. Here’s my final post on it: http://www.jillcarson.com/blog/2011/07/banquette-complete/, and there are earlier posts about building it.

    You can also have internal storage in the seat, which makes it even more useful space. It does take up real estate, so I like your cardboard box-template idea – seems like that’ll give you a sense of what it’ll be like walking around it.

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    • Avatar for YoungHouseLoveYoungHouseLove says

      September 1, 2011 at 3:02 pm

      Awesome job! I especially like the cat admiring it. Haha.

      xo,
      s

    • Avatar for ErinErin says

      September 2, 2011 at 8:23 am

      Just saw the photo of your banquette, Jill, and it shows a great idea—a half-wall or pass-through. I’d already posted where I thought it might make the room flow better to close off that doorway to the hall, but, Sherry, just read where you said you and John didn’t want a dark hallway. What if you just closed up half of the door opening into the hall? That would give you not only a wall to back up a banquette or couch with table, but also allow light into the hallway.

    • Avatar for YoungHouseLoveYoungHouseLove says

      September 2, 2011 at 8:37 am

      That’s actually a great solution and something that appealed more to us off the bat (a half wall of sorts to act like a window) but we’re just not sure what we gain from closing in the room more and adding more wall space since we have so much space (especially length-wise in the kichen), we’re not looking to move the banquette away from the food prep area and against the wall. I think in person when you’re in there something floating feels really nice, but maybe it’s hard to visualize online.

      xo,
      s

  32. Avatar for MeaganMeagan says

    September 1, 2011 at 2:54 pm

    This is awesome, and it can totally double as a buffet. We have a galley kitchen, so when we have a bunch of friends over, it’s super cramped when people are trying to get drinks after they get their food. Drives me crazy! But with this set up, they can move down the L shape, get a drink out of the main kitchen area, and get out of the way! :)

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  33. Avatar for Erin CErin C says

    September 1, 2011 at 2:54 pm

    I LOVE that picture of John sitting at the table… I laughed out loud!!! High five to Amber too, I am a visual person and that changed my whole opinion about it!

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  34. Avatar for kathykathy says

    September 1, 2011 at 2:56 pm

    ahhhhh – thanks Amber! I really CAN visualize it now! And I like it! I want to make a little nook like this in our kitchen, too! We currently have this weird, not-attached-to-anything-but-the-wall “island” (penninsula?) that totally looks like an afterthought in our kitchen (thanks, previous owners!) However, that’s a million years away on the to-do list

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  35. Avatar for Michelle KerseyMichelle Kersey says

    September 1, 2011 at 2:56 pm

    I would want try to find a more “open” option than the traditional solid backed to the floor banquette L seat… To keep the room light an airy still. Kind of like this, but totally different ;) http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_wYHFmYHCOHA/SMmrHPw0hDI/AAAAAAAAADw/WhheY4h84BM/s400/contigo_banquette.jpg

    You would lose the ability for storage space though :-\ And a countertop…

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    • Avatar for YoungHouseLoveYoungHouseLove says

      September 1, 2011 at 3:03 pm

      Yeah, we like the idea of that countertop and storage area, but who knows where we’ll end up!

      xo,
      s

  36. Avatar for mariamaria says

    September 1, 2011 at 2:58 pm

    since you guys are painting cabinetry i had a question–i actually asked about this before, and you were so nice to answer! I painted the insides of my kitchen cabinets (they were like your cabinets in your first house- white on the outside pressed wood on the inside) well we didn’t end up sanding or deglossing, (big mistake) i waited 3 days for it to dry and put down liners on the cabinet shelves and i went to take them off and they were peeling the paint and primer off :( i am in a panic because they are brand new cabinets and i fear i destroyed them. it looks good as is, it isn’t randomly peeling, but if someone were to remove the liners, the paint is going to come off with them. any advice on what to do? should i just leave it or should i try to remove the paint?
    thanks in advance :(

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    • Avatar for YoungHouseLoveYoungHouseLove says

      September 1, 2011 at 3:05 pm

      I would either just leave the liners in there and not worry about it since it’s completely hidden or remove all the liners and sand everything waay down and then use a deglosser and prime and paint. Then I’d give them ten (yes ten!) full days to dry without liners or anything in them with the doors open. Just so they’re not still tacky. Good luck!

      xo
      s

  37. Avatar for Michelle KerseyMichelle Kersey says

    September 1, 2011 at 2:58 pm

    Oh, or maybe instead of a wooden solid banquette, more like a small clean lined L shaped upholstered bench thingy ;)

    And, other people have probably mentioned my ideas… but my daughter just woke up and I can’t read through all the comments right now :)

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  38. Avatar for Maureen @ This (Kinda) Old HouseMaureen @ This (Kinda) Old House says

    September 1, 2011 at 3:00 pm

    My comment is this: that picture of John at the table is adorable. That is all.

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  39. Avatar for Kristen @ Popcorn on the StoveKristen @ Popcorn on the Stove says

    September 1, 2011 at 3:02 pm

    Great mock up! It does help me visualize it (for some reason I imagined it going all the way to the wall).

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  40. Avatar for JamieJamie says

    September 1, 2011 at 3:02 pm

    I’m envisioning the nook vs fireplace as Tetris pieces. Remember when you would put that L looking one all the way over to the right and you’d need that long skinny one to fit into the extra space? Yup. I like the idea and think it flows together like 2 perfect Tetris pieces! Good luck!

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    • Avatar for YoungHouseLoveYoungHouseLove says

      September 1, 2011 at 3:04 pm

      Haha, we want our kitchen to win at Tetris. This is now a goal of mine.

      xo,
      s

  41. Avatar for Kate (and Ben)Kate (and Ben) says

    September 1, 2011 at 3:04 pm

    WOW!!! I read the first post today whilst getting ready to head out and didn’t have time to comment to say that I think it sounds like a FANTASTIC solution!! When I checked back now to tell you that this total stranger from a few states away who spies on your daily lives gives her full thumbs up for the L-shaped seating/banquet area, I see you’ve been bombarded with comments.
    And after seeing the (amazing for so quick) photoshop work, I agree that two stools would look great there and add to seating–they make a ton of options that fit snugly/unobtrusively underneath a bar (re: counter) that can be pushed out of the way when not in use.
    good luck!
    -K

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  42. Avatar for BrandiBrandi says

    September 1, 2011 at 3:06 pm

    I love it. And I agree about putting some open shelves on the “kitchen side”. What do you think about putting the stools on the “dining room side”? Whoever sat there would also be looking at the fireplace wall but would still be close if you ever needed to overflow from the dining room. A friend has a similar set up and even when people have to sit on the stools, they don’t feel left out from the crowd… Also works great with kids so you can still keep an eye on them if there isn’t room at the main table. Just a thought!

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    • Avatar for YoungHouseLoveYoungHouseLove says

      September 1, 2011 at 3:11 pm

      Another great possibility!

      xo,
      s

  43. Avatar for JaimeJaime says

    September 1, 2011 at 3:06 pm

    I love the banquet idea and I think stools would be great too. You can always move them to the wall if you want to use it as a buffet. I wouldn’t worry too much about keeping the counter for prep work. I’m a kitchen designer and have found that the majority of people do their prep work between the sink and the stove even if there is a bigger counter space… it’s sort of the natural route to take. Fridge to sink, sink to stove. I always try to leave a 36″counter space here when designing kitchens.

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  44. Avatar for StephanieStephanie says

    September 1, 2011 at 3:06 pm

    I, for one, welcome our new banquette overlords.

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    • Avatar for YoungHouseLoveYoungHouseLove says

      September 1, 2011 at 3:10 pm

      Haha, I haven’t seen the word overlord in far too long.

      xo,
      s

  45. Avatar for janiejanie says

    September 1, 2011 at 3:06 pm

    Best EVER kitchen design tip I ever got was to mock things up with cardboard boxes so you can get a real feel for how it works.

    It seems from pictures that you’d want to have a free shot from the dining room, between the gap and into the living room, without having to twist to not knock your hip. But if you do the flooring all the way underneath it it will be movable anyway.

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    • Avatar for YoungHouseLoveYoungHouseLove says

      September 1, 2011 at 3:10 pm

      Love that idea! We’ll definitely play around with making 3-d templates before we build!

      xo,
      s

    • Avatar for t.d.t.d. says

      September 1, 2011 at 4:11 pm

      Lmao, I just envisioned cardboard seats and one of you guys ‘accidentally’ sitting too far and falling. Shortly after that, mental images of Clara playing hide and seek popped in this brain. Too far? Maybe. Anyway, 3D template sounds like it could have some fun/hilarious adventures.

    • Avatar for YoungHouseLoveYoungHouseLove says

      September 1, 2011 at 4:12 pm

      Totally could happen. Haha.

      xo,
      s

  46. Avatar for RuthRuth says

    September 1, 2011 at 3:07 pm

    I’m not really feeling the idea of the island OR that little seating nook because it looks so much in the way! Plus, if I imagine myself as your guest, how weird am I going to feel sitting in there looking at the hallway picture frames while you buzz around in the kitchen behind my back?

    Looking at the last sketch, what if you moved the doorway into the dining room over a midge toward the business end of the kitchen and put your L seating area against the wall? If you did a built-in table, could you have cabinets on the outward facing sides and totally avoid a support in the way of people’s legs?

    Anyway, just a suggestion and I realize everyone has different ideas about what is awesome and what is irritating, plus it’s hard to see from the pictures whether it is in the way or totally not troublesome.

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    • Avatar for RuthRuth says

      September 1, 2011 at 3:08 pm

      (I spend a lot of time imagining myself as your guest. Not really. That’s creepy…)

    • Avatar for YoungHouseLoveYoungHouseLove says

      September 1, 2011 at 3:11 pm

      Haha, come on over.

      xo,
      s

    • Avatar for YoungHouseLoveYoungHouseLove says

      September 1, 2011 at 3:09 pm

      We thought a lot about moving that doorway but want it to line up with the window in the dining room and also considered putting things against the wall across from the fireplace, but the room is actually huuuuge (25 feet long!) so it’s nice to have something in the middle to break things up – sort of like the table that has been there for the last 8 months. I guess it’s really hard for folks to envision without being in the kitchen though.

      xo,
      s

  47. Avatar for MeganMegan says

    September 1, 2011 at 3:07 pm

    Now I’m dreaming of a banquette and painting cabinets! If I get a vote, I say extend the counter 8 inches or more so the stools can tuck under! (What a pandora’s box you opened!)

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    • Avatar for GreenInOCGreenInOC says

      September 1, 2011 at 8:48 pm

      @Megan that’s exactly what I was thinking (about extending the counter).

      I would also look into the shelving that “moves” so that when you open those cabinets, your item comes right to you. Here’s one example:

      http://www.amazon.com/Rev-Shelf-RAS-ML-HDCR-Heavy-Mixer/dp/B001B0QFOI

    • Avatar for YoungHouseLoveYoungHouseLove says

      September 1, 2011 at 8:50 pm

      Ooh, so fancy!

      xo,
      s

  48. Avatar for MicaelaMicaela says

    September 1, 2011 at 3:08 pm

    I love the banquette facing the fireplace. My parents have a fireplace (with a gas insert) in the kitchen and it’s always been the hot spot of the house. Every time anyone comes in in the fall/winter months they head straight for the fireplace. Except they have nothing in front of theirs so we just stand and chat with our butts to the fire.

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  49. Avatar for Annie in IndianaAnnie in Indiana says

    September 1, 2011 at 3:09 pm

    When you referred to the area as your nook, it reminded me of one of my most embarrassing moments as a realtor. I was showing houses to the deacon from our church, and his wife. As we were looking at the eat-in kitchen, I made some comment about “that nook-ie area” … and watched her face turn red as I realized what I’d just said. There’s just no graceful way to recover from that.

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    • Avatar for YoungHouseLoveYoungHouseLove says

      September 1, 2011 at 3:11 pm

      Bwahahahaaha. So sorry to laugh but that’s so funny. I totally feel for you. I’d probably do something like that. Haha.

      xo,
      s

    • Avatar for GreenInOCGreenInOC says

      September 1, 2011 at 8:51 pm

      @Annie, clearly Mrs. Deacon had used an unsanctioned “nook-ie area” before, hence the red face!

    • Avatar for tracy atracy a says

      September 1, 2011 at 10:16 pm

      hilarious! annie, thanks for sharing…

  50. Avatar for NicoleNicole says

    September 1, 2011 at 3:09 pm

    Love the idea and I think it will look great! (insert tony the tiger) I am currently in the cabinet painting process. Still on the sanding step and it is loads of fun! Glad I went to Home Depot and bought a electric sander, my arms will one day regain feeling (right?) So sending you good vibes as you paint away!

    -N

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    • Avatar for Kim SKim S says

      September 1, 2011 at 6:01 pm

      I too am in the middle of cabinet painting! In fact, I just came in for a break to let the rain die down a bit (I’m painting in the carport so the cabinets are safe and dry, but the thunder and lightning was getting a bit too close for comfort!). How many coats are you expecting to have to do on yours? I’ve done 1 coat of primer and this is coat #3 of paint…I think I’ll still need one more too, yikes!

    • Avatar for YoungHouseLoveYoungHouseLove says

      September 1, 2011 at 6:16 pm

      I’m on coat #2 after a coat of primer, and it seems like I’ll need 3 to be good, but I really think it’s the paint I’m using (Ben Moore Advance, it’s nice and thick like oil but is low-voc/water based). White is hard because you want it perfect and bright. Hope it helps!

      xo,
      s

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