Planking Our Former Sunroom’s Ceiling

When we decided we wanted to do a wood planked ceiling in our sunroom, I think I kind of just envision walking into Home Depot, strolling down the beadboard ceiling aisle, and loading up our cart. Piece of cake. Easy as pie. Insert third dessert related idiom here.

Well, turns out there are lots of options for achieving the beadboard look. Historically, beadboard was made up of individual tongue-and-groove planks – kinda like a hardwood floor. Except between each board is a little ridge or indentation, aka the “bead.” Just look at this assortment of choices…

There are also lots of panel options. You know, those full 4ft x 8ft sheets of the beadboard pattern? We considered this option first because it seemed to be the most affordable (often less than $1 per square foot), but ultimately decided against it. Partly because installing these huge panels on our high ceiling seemed somewhat daunting (although Rhoda’s tutorial with the rented drywall lift made it seem less so, but we’d need to rent a truck to get them home and also had to factor in the cost of renting a drywall lift, which might counteract the savings). Mainly we skipped them because using panels meant there would be seams where one sheet meets another one – and, although you can cover those up with trim, we decided that on our sloped ceiling it just wasn’t the look we were going for.

The next option we considered most seriously were these vinyl planks. Vinyl is a tempting option in an outdoor space because it won’t rot or warp from exposure to moisture. I read some message boards where people complained that these looked “too plastic-y” but the deal killer for us was actually the price. These were about $1.79 per square foot, so they were nearly twice as expensive as the panels (which would essentially double our project cost right off the bat).

Knowing we wanted a more authentic plank look (versus a panel) and that we didn’t think the cost & look of vinyl were ideal for us, we eventually narrowed all of our choices to these: individual tongue-and-groove wood planks. Both Lowe’s and Home Depot sold similar options (neither of which are online unfortunately). The Lowe’s option came in under that $1 per square foot mark, so the price was right. And we were also excited to be getting a more traditional look – both without any fake seams and with some real wood grain in the mix. The final cost for 20 six-packs of 6″ tongue-and-groove planks worked out to be $297 (at $0.94 per square foot). Admittedly it was a bit more than we pictured ourselves spending on this part of the project (we originally guessed that we could come in under $250) but we ultimately just want a result that we’re happy with for the long haul.

 

Unlike the large beadboard panels, we could fit these in our car and install them without buying any additional equipment like a scaffold or a drywall lift – but just like the other options, this choice also had its downsides. For one, installation would be more tedious since each board is only 6″ wide, meaning all 40 rows would need to be installed piece-by-piece. And wood is also susceptible to moisture issues (warping, rotting) if it’s not properly protected and maintained. Thankfully our entire sunroom’s exterior is wood, which has held up well for decades – so we had confidence that our new sunroom ceiling would stand the test of time if we prepped it properly. Which meant that before any planks could be installed, we needed to prime and paint both sides of them… one by one. Even though the backs won’t show we primed and painted them anyways so the whole board would be protected and sealed in.

 

Pictured above was my first painting station, which didn’t work out so hot because the plastic drop cloth kept sticking to the backside of the boards. So eventually I figured out a method that worked: drop cloths on the ground and some nylon rope tied between two trees. I could get 10-12 planks done at a time (getting two done with one swipe of the paint sprayer – spraying their backside and then flipping them right over to do the front). Update: Here’s an affiliate link to a paint sprayer that’s similar to ours on Amazon since ours isn’t available anymore). 

 

This process alone took about four days worth of two hour sessions, since we had 120 boards to do – front and back, primer and paint. We only had room for about 45 of them in our makeshift drying station in the garage (that way they didn’t get rain / dirt / leaves on them while curing) so I primed and painted one group, then installed them, then primed and painted the next, and installed those. Factor all the various paint sprayer cleanings into that, and let’s just say it wasn’t my favorite project in the world. But I knew once we got them up on the ceiling it would all be worth it. At least that’s what I kept telling myself.

 

The primer we used was good ol’ Kilz Premium and the paint was Benjamin Moore’s Regal Select Exterior in the low lustre finish (we just told the guys at the paint desk what we were doing and they said that would work well). The color was called “In Your Eyes.” It’s a nice, pure light blue. We didn’t want the color to be too bold (we worried it would reflect into the living room window and make the whole room blue if it was too dark) and we also didn’t want it to clash next the the brick exterior of our house. We also wanted to make sure it read as blue, and not gray or green in some lighting situations.

 

Now, before I get into the installation part of this project – a note about insulation. After a few commenters confirmed our instincts to re-insulate the ceiling to help keep some of the summer heat from getting through, we decided to go for it. The sun beats down on this roof all day, so even though the doorways have been opened up for some nice cross-breezes, apparently insulation can keep open rooms cooler by absorbing that constant sunlight shining down from above. So we mostly used the leftover insulation that was in the ceiling before (remember we removed it here?) despite how ugly it was. It was still relatively new and would do the job just fine – although we did have to buy one new roll to fill some gaps.

And then we learned we should NOT have insulated the roof in this case. Oops. We were able to remove it later (more on that in a moment) so please ignore the presence of insulation in these next few shots…

 

Installing the planks was giving me hardwood floor deja vu. From that process, I know that setting your first board straight against your wall is a crucial step to ensure your whole project isn’t crooked. So I cut a few spacers out of scrap wood to place along the front wall to keep my first row even.

 

We hung our planks in this direction (running parallel with the long wall) so that we could attach them directly to the joists (every 16 inches). That way they’ll be nice and sturdy (nailing them in at such close increments will hopefully keep them from sagging or warping down the line). That wall is about 20 feet long, so it took about 2.5 boards to complete each row.

 

Also borrowing from our hardwood flooring experience, we wanted to stagger the breaks between boards from one row to the next. This makes things more secure since there’s not one area of weakness for each row that lines up, and also looks nice since the boards don’t all break at the same place. So if we started one row with a full board, we started the next row with a partial scrap so they weren’t ending on the same joist.

 

Sherry helped me by doing a lot of the cutting while I did the nailing – and the other thing we did to make the seams less visible is to cut everything using a scarf joint. By cutting every end on matching 45° angles, the boards will overlap each other a bit and will be more likely to stay together and look more seamless in the long run.

 

You can see it a bit closer here, as we’re installing one board next to another. You’ll notice we also cut everything so that all of our seams coincided with a ceiling joist. This meant we could nail both ends of a seam into the joist, further discouraging the ends from bowing away from the ceiling.

 

All of that cutting was definitely a bit of a time suck, so it was nice to have an extra set of hands for some help with that. And luckily the rest of the install went pretty much like clock work. The tongues and grooves helped each board slide on the ceiling pretty nicely, though it sometimes took some light encouragement with a rubber mallet.

Follow that with a shot from the nail gun into each of the joists (with some wood glue along the joists before installing the plank) and we were in business. Update: Here’s an affiliate link to the nail gun we bought on Amazon. 

 

It took us a good 5 hours to get our first set of 45 boards hung (over the course of a few days), so it definitely was a slow-going project. And I’ll admit the idea of hoisting a few 4ft x 8ft panels up there was starting to sound pretty appealing. But at least the breakneckback speed meant that we were able to catch our little insulation error before it was too late (instead of having to remove the entire ceiling, we could pull everything out since the beadboard hadn’t progressed too far to block anything from our reach).

The issue we learned (first from a commenter, and then later confirmed by the framing expert who helped us remove the drop ceiling) is that insulation traps heat (duh) and needs airflow in order to sweat that heat out. Since our insulation would’ve been installed smack dab between the roof and the beadboard ceiling, there’d be no air flow. Not only could that mean built-up moisture that could threaten our beadboard, but the hot insulation could actually result in a roof that doesn’t even meet its expected lifetime due to all that trapped heat burning it up prematurely. So we’re very grateful to have learned the error of our ways so that we could correct it before it meant tearing out our new ceiling. And we figure with the cross breezes we get paired with the two fans that we’ll be installing, this little shady retreat from the deck will be nice and cool by comparison – even without the insulation.

After another round of priming and painting, we could get to work installing our second set of planks. At this point I pretty much had my rhythm down and I think it only took me four hours (big difference, I know – but this was without Sherry manning the saw so I was a lone ranger for this part). I probably could’ve chugged along a bit faster if I didn’t have curveballs like jigsawing around the two fan fixture boxes, but those weren’t too bad in the end.

When I had that batch up, it actually started to look like a ceiling.

My final day of ceiling installation went pretty quickly since I only had a small sliver of space to finish. The height was becoming a bit challenging and my neck and shoulders were basically numb from working above my head for so many days in a row, but I was somewhat excited for a new challenge: adding a row of vents across the top to help introduce a bit of air flow up there – which was also recommended by our framing guy during our remove-the-insulation conversation.

At last, all of the ceiling boards were in. I guess technically it’s not a “beadboard” ceiling since our planks don’t have the bead design engraved into them – they just lock together to create that look. We’re glad we went with a simpler 6″ plank because, given its size, we think a smaller bead detail might have looked a bit too busy up there.

Sadly our ceiling work is not quite done – but we’re in the home stretch. We just have to add trim around the edges, which will need to be caulked and painted. Plus, I want to go back and try to fill the many, many nail holes in the boards themselves before painting over the whole thing one last time for that protected-against-the-elements result (we figure one more coat over all the planks, now that they’re pieced together, will help keep moisture out of the seams).

Progress feels good. It’s almost like having the feeling in my arms again.

Here’s what our to do list is looking like now:

  • Rip up the old carpeting (more on that here)
  • Remove the sliding doors and tracks to open things up (more on that here)
  • Convert outlets to outdoor-safe rain-proof ones with covers (more on that here)
  • Add fresh casing to the openings and caulk like crazy to waterproof everything (more on that here)
  • Demo the old ceiling in hopes of possibly lofting it (get a pro in here for advice) (more on that here)
  • Remove old beams, reinforce ceiling stability, and re-route electrical for two fans instead of one (more on that here)
  • Prime, paint, and install our beadboard ceiling
  • Add trim around the ceiling, caulk and paint that, and hang two ceiling fans
  • Repaint the columns & interior of the sunroom with white exterior paint (it’s currently cream)
  • Tile the floors (we bought something that’s outdoor safe and less slick than the glue-stained concrete here)
  • Get a rug, furniture, and maybe even add some outdoor curtains and lanterns/sconces?
  • Build an outdoor fireplace like this down the line

I think this puts us at more than halfway done, but we still have floor-tiling to check off before we’re really coasting towards the finish line. Did anyone else spend the last week priming and painting a whole lot of stuff? We also tackled Clara’s walls, ceiling, and closet, so it was quite possibly the most painting we’ve ever done in a week’s time. Plus Sherry conquered another area of blue trim, so we’ll be back with those details in a day or two.

Comments

  1. Jen. says

    Ooo! I just used Fantasy Blue — one darker than In Your Eyes, I think — in my front hall. I LOVE it. It only looks grey in incandescent light, which I suspect you won’t be using much on your outdoor room. Good luck! The ceiling looks so nice!

  2. says

    Having feeling in your arms is over-rated!

    Good job on the ceiling!

    I had a sense of accomplishment when I cleaned the playroom recently – it was so bad I was almost too embarrassed to post the before pictures….

  3. says

    Lloyd Dobler — hahahaha! Thanks for starting off Monday right!

    Your vision for this room is nothing short of amazing. Love how it’s coming together.

  4. says

    Oh, very nice!! I didn’t do any construction work this weekend–at least, not of the home variety–I’ve been enjoying the use of my sewing room since spending most of the summer putting it together, but that DID include installing beadboard panels as a ceiling. Believe me, you chose correctly. Even so, that was a VERY big job and you did a very nice job of it :)

  5. Fenny says

    Hi guys. Looks great! Curious why you decided to go horizontal instead of vertical with your boards. I think it would have made the ceiling look even higher if you had gone vertical. A little more work since you would have to add pieces between the rafters to nail the boards to but I really think it would have been worth it.

    Fenny

    • says

      Thanks Fenny! We had to attach the boards to the joists (every 16″) to keep them strong and secure, so since the joists ran that direction, we had to do the boards that way to catch those cross beams and nail them all in.

      -John

  6. says

    Wow, what a huge amount of work! Of course, it will all be worth it when you’re done though.

    But it’s too bad you couldn’t get John Cusack to be a bit more helpful. It’s nice and all that he’s holding up the paint can, but it wouldn’t have killed him to work the saw as well.

    Some people . . .

    Katy

  7. LisaDR says

    Coming out GREAT!!!! We used beadboard in our breezeway which is now part of the kitchen and it’s such a clean and cozy look! I’m surprised about the insulation…and have a question…would polstyrene boards versus fiber insulation help to keep the porch cool and not effect the wood panels? We have an insulated roof that is 3″ of foam board and it is at least 10 degrees cooler under the porch. We don’t have wood, however, but I’m just wondering about the heat factor.

    • says

      When we bought our house last summer, there was polystyrene insulation in our crawl space and the home inspector told us we had to get it removed because it’s a fire hazard! I’m not sure if there are different varieties, but ours had to go. :-/

    • JMK says

      For anyone living in a cold climate, separating your insulation from the roof sheathing is a standard building code item. If you have a normal attic with a triangular space like your porch before lofting the ceiling, you only need to add the styrofoam channels at the point where the attic begins to go our over the exterior wall into the eaves. If you have an entirely vaulted ceiling, which we do in 4 rooms in our home, you have to staple multiple sections of the styrofoam channel from the eaves all the way up to the highest point. This ensures you keep an air channel open between the underside of the roof sheathing and the insulation. In winter here it’s easily -30 outside and 70 inside so you defintely want a barrier between hot and cold spaces to avoid the temperature transfer. I’m surprised you weren’t advised to add venting to the eaves at the bottom of the porch roof. Hot air rises, so in summer air will eventually be forced out the vents at the top, but I’d think adding them at the bottom to let in fresh air would speed up the process.

    • says

      Looks great! I’m going to throw in my nerdy architectural opinion about insulation. I would agree with JMK about adding venting at the eaves to allow the air to circulate, now that you have vents at the top. I think it is good that you took out the fiberglass insulation, because if nothing else it had a paper vapor barrier which shouldn’t be used in this type of condition (and could allow moisture to develop). I have mixed feelings about the Styrofoam channels though. It is true that a lot of codes still technically require this in vaulted ceilings, but this is not always as helpful as one would think. The concept is that the channels allow air to flow between the insulation and the roof to keep the shingles cooler (some shingle manufacturers will actually void your roofing warranty if you install insulation directly to the underside). However studies have shown that the narrow venting does not actually increase the shingle temperatures by very much. And the added benefit of a really tight installation job (either with rigid or spray foam) is more beneficial than venting and possibly allowing gaps for air to escape. In our old house (1888) we have actually sprayfoamed the underside of our roof (between the joists and the plaster ceilings) with no venting.

      Also Paige the reason that your inspector probably said to remove the rigid polystyrene is that it is exposed. To meet code (and avoid flame spread) it is to be fully sealed in a wall cavity and not left out. We have this in our basement walls (but fully sealed) and I recommend this type of insulation in lower level conditions. It makes a noticeable difference. Another option for damp conditions is mineral wool, which isn’t affect by moisture and is actually also used in fire walls. You don’t want to use fiberglass insulation in areas that are prone to be damp.

    • says

      Thanks for the info Heidi! We’re thinking we could add some vents to the outside eaves of the sunroom so it vents to the same area without interfering with the planked ceiling.

      xo
      s