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		<title>By: Cathryn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cathryn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Oct 2011 05:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ryan,
 
The people who were evicted prob had plenty of time to sell that pool table themselves before they were evicted. I&#039;m assuming of course that they were aware that they were not paying their rent and that they knew that defaulting on rent=eviction. If they bought it they prob didn&#039;t need anyone to suggest to them that they could sell it. In this day and age pretty much everyone has access to the internet either through someone else they know or the public library. They could have given it to a family member or friend. They could have bartered it for moving help with the rest of their stuff. If they were the ones who dumped it out on the curb, then they didn&#039;t even want it. Katie and Hubby saw a pool table sitting in a trash pile and picked it up. I see nothing wrong with that. It was garbage at that point.

And may I ask how you would know what Jesus would have told them to do? Have you read the entire Bible or are you speaking on behalf of someone you don&#039;t even know? Did you know that the Bible says we should not harvest everything from our fields but leave some of it behind for the poor to come pick up for themselves (totally paraphrased). I don&#039;t know Katie&#039;s situation, but in general people who are rolling in money don&#039;t pick through other people&#039;s garbage. It was Katie and Hubby or the landfill. 

If the evicted party had a pool table that was worth $600 USED but was not paying their rent....then maybe losing their pool table was a blessing for them. I know that I have learned many a lesson the hard way through the pain of the consequences of my actions and after that major pain, I made sure not to make the same bad decisions again. One episode of pain to learn a lesson that will make my next 80 years easier....One $600 loss to teach someone that they need to plan better financially or go back to school or watch their spending, or get a second job, or build a community of people who would be willing to help them, or find out which charities out there are willing to help them if they ever find themselves in this situation again....

Anyway, we could spend forever arguing the hypothetical situations of all involved, but the bottom line is that picking up trash before the garbage men get it is not wrong-legally or morally. I really admire the sweetness of your heart though, that you immediately leapt to concern for who you perceived was the injured party. Just maybe please don&#039;t consider all pain or loss or inconvenience to be a negative thing. A lot of good lessons are learnt through pain. And... also please don&#039;t use Jesus to shame someone. He&#039;s really precious to some of us and we don&#039;t appreciate it when people say things in His name that He maybe wouldn&#039;t say. The Bible says some pretty clear things about poverty and what everyone is responsible to do about it. 

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ryan,</p>
<p>The people who were evicted prob had plenty of time to sell that pool table themselves before they were evicted. I&#8217;m assuming of course that they were aware that they were not paying their rent and that they knew that defaulting on rent=eviction. If they bought it they prob didn&#8217;t need anyone to suggest to them that they could sell it. In this day and age pretty much everyone has access to the internet either through someone else they know or the public library. They could have given it to a family member or friend. They could have bartered it for moving help with the rest of their stuff. If they were the ones who dumped it out on the curb, then they didn&#8217;t even want it. Katie and Hubby saw a pool table sitting in a trash pile and picked it up. I see nothing wrong with that. It was garbage at that point.</p>
<p>And may I ask how you would know what Jesus would have told them to do? Have you read the entire Bible or are you speaking on behalf of someone you don&#8217;t even know? Did you know that the Bible says we should not harvest everything from our fields but leave some of it behind for the poor to come pick up for themselves (totally paraphrased). I don&#8217;t know Katie&#8217;s situation, but in general people who are rolling in money don&#8217;t pick through other people&#8217;s garbage. It was Katie and Hubby or the landfill. </p>
<p>If the evicted party had a pool table that was worth $600 USED but was not paying their rent&#8230;.then maybe losing their pool table was a blessing for them. I know that I have learned many a lesson the hard way through the pain of the consequences of my actions and after that major pain, I made sure not to make the same bad decisions again. One episode of pain to learn a lesson that will make my next 80 years easier&#8230;.One $600 loss to teach someone that they need to plan better financially or go back to school or watch their spending, or get a second job, or build a community of people who would be willing to help them, or find out which charities out there are willing to help them if they ever find themselves in this situation again&#8230;.</p>
<p>Anyway, we could spend forever arguing the hypothetical situations of all involved, but the bottom line is that picking up trash before the garbage men get it is not wrong-legally or morally. I really admire the sweetness of your heart though, that you immediately leapt to concern for who you perceived was the injured party. Just maybe please don&#8217;t consider all pain or loss or inconvenience to be a negative thing. A lot of good lessons are learnt through pain. And&#8230; also please don&#8217;t use Jesus to shame someone. He&#8217;s really precious to some of us and we don&#8217;t appreciate it when people say things in His name that He maybe wouldn&#8217;t say. The Bible says some pretty clear things about poverty and what everyone is responsible to do about it. </p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: YoungHouseLove</title>
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		<dc:creator>YoungHouseLove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2011 15:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course we&#039;ll post this comment (along with your previous one). We don&#039;t delete comments when folks disagree (unless it gets really ugly and there are expletives). We usually just delete spam.

xo,
s</description>
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<p>Of course we&#8217;ll post this comment (along with your previous one). We don&#8217;t delete comments when folks disagree (unless it gets really ugly and there are expletives). We usually just delete spam.</p>
<p>xo,<br />
s</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2011 11:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also @Kate: I&#039;m pretty sure Jesus (whom your blog tells us you love a little more than home decor, pork, and television) wouldn&#039;t have done that. Probably would&#039;ve invited them into your home. Or at least suggest the idea to them about selling their pool table. I know this is not going to be posted. But maybe the owners of this website will at least think about their own tacit approval of this. 

I should probably just refrain from reading comments on blogs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also @Kate: I&#8217;m pretty sure Jesus (whom your blog tells us you love a little more than home decor, pork, and television) wouldn&#8217;t have done that. Probably would&#8217;ve invited them into your home. Or at least suggest the idea to them about selling their pool table. I know this is not going to be posted. But maybe the owners of this website will at least think about their own tacit approval of this. </p>
<p>I should probably just refrain from reading comments on blogs.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2011 11:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say I&#039;m shocked no one called out the fact that 2 people selling an evicted person&#039;s pool table is kind of a terrible thing to do. Maybe those comments were deleted. I can&#039;t believe their actions were applauded nor that they sought recognition for their actions. First, if a person was evicted, their stuff may be on the corner not because it is abandoned, but rather because the landlords placed it there. This would mean taking the pool table is tantamount to stealing. Second, it should be rather obvious that the tenant was in a bad situation if they got evicted, and you have no way of knowing whether it was their fault or not (not that it being their fault somehow makes it ok to take their stuff). Could have been illness, lost job, etc. Regardless, they probably could have used the $600 more than you. That&#039;s stealing. You made $600 solely on the misery of others, and on the fact you own a truck to move the pool table, and internet to advertise said pool table.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say I&#8217;m shocked no one called out the fact that 2 people selling an evicted person&#8217;s pool table is kind of a terrible thing to do. Maybe those comments were deleted. I can&#8217;t believe their actions were applauded nor that they sought recognition for their actions. First, if a person was evicted, their stuff may be on the corner not because it is abandoned, but rather because the landlords placed it there. This would mean taking the pool table is tantamount to stealing. Second, it should be rather obvious that the tenant was in a bad situation if they got evicted, and you have no way of knowing whether it was their fault or not (not that it being their fault somehow makes it ok to take their stuff). Could have been illness, lost job, etc. Regardless, they probably could have used the $600 more than you. That&#8217;s stealing. You made $600 solely on the misery of others, and on the fact you own a truck to move the pool table, and internet to advertise said pool table.</p>
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		<title>By: YoungHouseLove</title>
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		<dc:creator>YoungHouseLove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Mar 2011 12:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s amazing! Congrats! Gotta love the power of craigslist!

xo,
s</description>
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<p>That&#8217;s amazing! Congrats! Gotta love the power of craigslist!</p>
<p>xo,<br />
s</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer Wolf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer Wolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Mar 2011 04:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just discovered your site and LOVE it! We&#039;re in a situation much like you guys were - tons of hard-to-maintain landscape when I just wanted simple and lots of grass for our dogs/future kids! 2 yrs after we&#039;ve moved in, I finally got the nerve to get rid of most of it. I got some bids from local companies to take out tons of plants and palm trees, including 2 20&quot; queen palms, for like $700. I was resigned to chopping and digging everything out now, but didn&#039;t want to kill these great plants if I didn&#039;t have to. I posted them free on Craigslist and a local landscaping company took EVERYTHING that night. They were so careful and even took extra precautions to make sure surrounding plants weren&#039;t harmed. My husband was skeptical and even upset with me at first, but he is a changed man now. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just discovered your site and LOVE it! We&#8217;re in a situation much like you guys were &#8211; tons of hard-to-maintain landscape when I just wanted simple and lots of grass for our dogs/future kids! 2 yrs after we&#8217;ve moved in, I finally got the nerve to get rid of most of it. I got some bids from local companies to take out tons of plants and palm trees, including 2 20&#8243; queen palms, for like $700. I was resigned to chopping and digging everything out now, but didn&#8217;t want to kill these great plants if I didn&#8217;t have to. I posted them free on Craigslist and a local landscaping company took EVERYTHING that night. They were so careful and even took extra precautions to make sure surrounding plants weren&#8217;t harmed. My husband was skeptical and even upset with me at first, but he is a changed man now. :)</p>
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		<title>By: YoungHouseLove</title>
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		<dc:creator>YoungHouseLove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Mar 2011 03:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good luck with everything!

xo,
s</description>
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<p>Good luck with everything!</p>
<p>xo,<br />
s</p>
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		<title>By: Jen Jeffries</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jen Jeffries</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Mar 2011 03:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a great idea! Thank you so much :) And p.s...I love your blog...you have such a cute family and the projects all sound like so much fun! I can&#039;t wait to try some of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a great idea! Thank you so much :) And p.s&#8230;I love your blog&#8230;you have such a cute family and the projects all sound like so much fun! I can&#8217;t wait to try some of them.</p>
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		<title>By: YoungHouseLove</title>
		<link>http://www.younghouselove.com/2008/09/power-of-the-people/comment-page-1/#comment-431942</link>
		<dc:creator>YoungHouseLove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2011 19:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have had nothing but great craigslist interactions, but if it&#039;s beyond your comfort zone we&#039;d never push it on you or anything! Most people love anything for free - and not even having to let them into your house, just letting them get to work outside seemed pretty risk-free. Of course if you have a sprinkler system that you&#039;re afraid they&#039;ll dig up that&#039;s another story! Haha. The sad thing is that if your tree is dead on one side it might not be savable. Maybe try bringing a pic to a greenhouse to see what they think and if they think it can be saved then try craigslist if you&#039;re comfortable? Good luck!

xo,
s</description>
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<p>We have had nothing but great craigslist interactions, but if it&#8217;s beyond your comfort zone we&#8217;d never push it on you or anything! Most people love anything for free &#8211; and not even having to let them into your house, just letting them get to work outside seemed pretty risk-free. Of course if you have a sprinkler system that you&#8217;re afraid they&#8217;ll dig up that&#8217;s another story! Haha. The sad thing is that if your tree is dead on one side it might not be savable. Maybe try bringing a pic to a greenhouse to see what they think and if they think it can be saved then try craigslist if you&#8217;re comfortable? Good luck!</p>
<p>xo,<br />
s</p>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2011 19:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a question about this. I loved the idea when I read it and I mentioned it to my mom (I still live with her, so ultimately she makes the decisions around here haha). We have this bush that over the years has grown into a HUGE overbearing &quot;tree&quot; outside of our front door and I just want to see it gone ASAP. Unfortunately the back of it is a little dead, but we do have a &quot;black thumb,&quot; so perhaps those with green thumbs may know how to give it life again? Anyway, my question is: were you at all concerned about strangers coming to your house to dig up your shrubbery? My mom said she&#039;d be too nervous advertising our address and having strangers show up at our house with a shovel and pickaxe lol...which I totally understand. It does sound scary and you just never know with people these days!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a question about this. I loved the idea when I read it and I mentioned it to my mom (I still live with her, so ultimately she makes the decisions around here haha). We have this bush that over the years has grown into a HUGE overbearing &#8220;tree&#8221; outside of our front door and I just want to see it gone ASAP. Unfortunately the back of it is a little dead, but we do have a &#8220;black thumb,&#8221; so perhaps those with green thumbs may know how to give it life again? Anyway, my question is: were you at all concerned about strangers coming to your house to dig up your shrubbery? My mom said she&#8217;d be too nervous advertising our address and having strangers show up at our house with a shovel and pickaxe lol&#8230;which I totally understand. It does sound scary and you just never know with people these days!</p>
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